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	<title>Comments on: Using FizzBuzz to Find Developers who Grok Coding</title>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10179</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again .. useless checks . luckily you admit to being new ... but still .. one should realize 15 = 3*5 and checking again and again and again if indeed it is the case looks a bit like fail]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again .. useless checks . luckily you admit to being new &#8230; but still .. one should realize 15 = 3*5 and checking again and again and again if indeed it is the case looks a bit like fail</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10178</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And this is why the webdev industry is full of noobs who know nothing but HTML and PHP . congratulations :)

Who the f* cares if you already know about htmlspecialchars or not - it&#039;s mere details compared to not having logic --]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And this is why the webdev industry is full of noobs who know nothing but HTML and PHP . congratulations <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Who the f* cares if you already know about htmlspecialchars or not &#8211; it&#8217;s mere details compared to not having logic &#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again .. useless checks, failed logic ... Why oh why start by checking the least likely case which is in fact dependant on the next two cases etc. etc. etc. you should NOT be coding.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again .. useless checks, failed logic &#8230; Why oh why start by checking the least likely case which is in fact dependant on the next two cases etc. etc. etc. you should NOT be coding.</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10176</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 10:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would consider anyone checking a second time out of the race tbh .

IMHO such a major lack of logic can lead to overly complex solutions to simple problems -- here you&#039;re only adding one check per loop (some made it double .. they beat you at it :p ) but in another case you will be designing an Mloc solution that runs like a tortoise where a Kloc solution running ok was possible.

The ability of a dev to synthesize and simplify is extremely important for extensibility and maintenance - and very often efficiency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would consider anyone checking a second time out of the race tbh .</p>
<p>IMHO such a major lack of logic can lead to overly complex solutions to simple problems &#8212; here you&#8217;re only adding one check per loop (some made it double .. they beat you at it :p ) but in another case you will be designing an Mloc solution that runs like a tortoise where a Kloc solution running ok was possible.</p>
<p>The ability of a dev to synthesize and simplify is extremely important for extensibility and maintenance &#8211; and very often efficiency.</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well .. If I had to choose between someone who knows htmlspecialchars by heart, and someone who knows how to code .. it&#039;d be damn quick.

While from a web standpoint (and yes the future is going to be full of webapps - that need a real backend not in PHP though) it looks ridiculous that someone would not realize &amp;gt was the culprit (see what I did there ;) ) - it&#039;s just webdev knowledge.

So yeah . might look like total fail but that doesn&#039;t mean thing when you&#039;re looking for a real coder and not just a php-drone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well .. If I had to choose between someone who knows htmlspecialchars by heart, and someone who knows how to code .. it&#8217;d be damn quick.</p>
<p>While from a web standpoint (and yes the future is going to be full of webapps &#8211; that need a real backend not in PHP though) it looks ridiculous that someone would not realize &amp;gt was the culprit (see what I did there <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) &#8211; it&#8217;s just webdev knowledge.</p>
<p>So yeah . might look like total fail but that doesn&#8217;t mean thing when you&#8217;re looking for a real coder and not just a php-drone.</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10174</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well .. you&#039;re wrong like so many before you - and it was pointed out before you answered.

Should the variable not be a numeric type, you&#039;d require double conversions ... all that to avoid a third variable when you&#039;re obviously not thinking much further than 4 bit integers.. 

I would be surprised if creating a third variable in registers was slower than doing three basic arithmetic ops ...  - in a general case of course, not counting corner cases like register is exactly 100% full with a and b  or something -]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well .. you&#8217;re wrong like so many before you &#8211; and it was pointed out before you answered.</p>
<p>Should the variable not be a numeric type, you&#8217;d require double conversions &#8230; all that to avoid a third variable when you&#8217;re obviously not thinking much further than 4 bit integers.. </p>
<p>I would be surprised if creating a third variable in registers was slower than doing three basic arithmetic ops &#8230;  &#8211; in a general case of course, not counting corner cases like register is exactly 100% full with a and b  or something -</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10173</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside from your remarks (i.e. no new line is making it a bit strange), checking again for the mod is a crime in itself. you already know if it matches mod3 or mod5, so just use that knowledge instead of asking for another expensive (double) op.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from your remarks (i.e. no new line is making it a bit strange), checking again for the mod is a crime in itself. you already know if it matches mod3 or mod5, so just use that knowledge instead of asking for another expensive (double) op.</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10172</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not reusable because not inside a class ?? god bless brainwashing.

Performance of % and if statement is extremely relevant because there will be no IO for this exercise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not reusable because not inside a class ?? god bless brainwashing.</p>
<p>Performance of % and if statement is extremely relevant because there will be no IO for this exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: L.</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10171</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somehow anything can be a number ... Not sure when double conversion can be smarter than actually just using the third variable .. looks a lot like fail in the end.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somehow anything can be a number &#8230; Not sure when double conversion can be smarter than actually just using the third variable .. looks a lot like fail in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Which FizzBuzz solution is the most efficient? &#124; Articulating ideas</title>
		<link>http://imranontech.com/2007/01/24/using-fizzbuzz-to-find-developers-who-grok-coding/#comment-10170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Which FizzBuzz solution is the most efficient? &#124; Articulating ideas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2012 07:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] solution is the most efficient? January 8, 2012 This little &#8220;poor-developer filter&#8221; was discussed and solved many [...]]]></description>
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